Monday, April 20, 2009

Does Akismet ban affect Google ranking?

LOL I was banned by akismet. Well, not me personally, but my brand new URL that I created for my main money making page just a couple of months ago and made a redirect - which several previous posts were about.

Funny how I figured this. I did not comment on blogs with this URL yet at all. Never till yesterday. And yesterday I went to investigate my main competitor links - which was prompted by my drop in SE results for my main keywords. Yes, I got a serious drop like a week and a half ago, two keywords went to the second page, and one dropped from 3rd place to 4th which accounted for a total 50% drop of traffic. And yes, my main competitor got ahead of me on all keywords. I am still investigating the reasons for this drop, hence an attempt to figure out what competitor is doing.

So, I went to Yahoo site explorer and took a look at his links. All the first page were blog comments on high PR posts, and I naturally went to comment on the same posts. Yet my comments did not go through! WTF I thought? So I went to one of my own blogs and commented there. Yep, it went directly to spam! OK, so I went to a handful on friends' blogs and commented there and had them rescue my comments from spam. Did not help. I could continue this route since I own quite a few blogs and my friends own even more together, But I just stopped and thought I would rather try Akismet support.

I don't remember making a single comment with this URL, let alone spamming blogs. Been there, done that, don't do this anymore for quite some time, so I am positive it was not my action that caused the ban. Then what? Likely it was my competitor. Dirty stuff, granted. Looks like he is not very picky in his methods. So my second thought was - heck, let me do the same to him! Then I sorta pondered about it and decided to play nice. Like I don't have a proof he did it, only suspicion. I will give him a benefit of the doubt, keeping this incident in mind however.

So I won't spam blog comments with his URL. And I won't try to get off Akismet blacklist with undercover activity - I will just submit a support request to them. I did not do anything wrong, why should I hide? Will see how it goes, and will try to keep you posted.

One more thought however - could it be that this Akismet ban affected my Google ranking? Searched the net, and found another blog post about Google downranking coinciding with Akismet blacklist. Something to ponder about...

Theoretically it should not happen, because this way BigG will promote dirty competition, which definitely will hit the relevance of their search results, yet practically there is no limit to stupidity, so you never know :)

Well, here is the letter I sent to Akismet support:

Hello,

Looks like one of my urls http://XXX.html is considered spam by Akismet. I am positive I did not spam comments. In fact this url is just about two months old, and I even can't remember ever placing a comment with it before yesterday, when I actually discovered it does not go through. I would greatly appreciate it if you can look into this for me.

Thanks and regards, Joshua


The results are here: http://adsense-diary.blogspot.com/2009/04/akismet-ban-lifted-kudos-to-their.html

5 comments:

Anonymous said...

All I can say is wow. How many people would be clueless as to why this even happened and have no idea how to track down the problem. Makes you want to go Blackhat.

Joshua Nestor said...

Well, blackhat definitely can have a place in your arsenal, yet there are uses where blackhat is not beneficial, like building authority sites - pretty much what I am doing with the site in question. Blackhat can only hurt this...

Jay | Wealthy Affiliate Insider said...

Thats weird. I have a webpage that used to be #1 and should be kicking ass in the SE. It doesn't rank anymore not even on the first 3 or 4 pages ( I don't look beyond this) which is weird.

Just tried leaving a comment on my blog using the url and guess what? Straight to spam. Looks like you might be right.

If this has something to do with Google then this is really stupid.

Thanks for pointing this out.

Shirley Anderson said...

This is scarey stuff, Joshua!

I have a friend who lost his page ranking overnight - it went from 4 to 0. He doesn't have a clue why. Could that be the result of someone else's blackhat activities, too?

www.forexsoftware-free.info said...

I've been having similar issues in the past with Akismet. Personally I hate when my perfectly valid comments get spammed. So I consider it high priority that my readers don’t get in such situation ever. I don't use Akismet anymore, I use Defensio now and its much better than it. Also, it is better learner than Akismet and really shows the effects of my actions and does not block blindly like Akismet!